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作者 wizardfizban (瘋法師)
標題 Re: [新聞] Fallout周邊 80美元的核子可樂卻是塑膠瓶
時間 Mon Dec 31 08:28:31 2018


看來真的是瓶子問題。

這個核子可樂裝朗姆酒在預購後就一直延遲出貨,最後總算出貨了。然後在官網上的消息
寫著.....

https://www.nukadarkrum.com/

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總算能出貨了...然後就寫一篇文章說明情況。

情況是現在這樣成本更高,而事實上他們也有建了兩個玻璃瓶的模。但他們發現這樣弄瓶
子不夠大,所以就變成現在這樣啦!

加註說明一下情況,好的朗姆酒在美國能賣2X到30美元。但這東西賣80美元。

所以就算是瓶子不夠大,我相信玩家也寧願要那個不夠大的玻璃瓶。因為是買來收藏又不
是買來喝的。

就算是買來喝的.....

Nuka Dark Rum Is Another Bethesda Merchandise Disaster
https://tinyurl.com/yc3965s2

這有位鐵粉寫的感想。

瓶子做的很爛。然後酒本身不好喝,拿來做調酒味道也怪怪的,事實上這位鐵粉有發現生
產這酒的廠商沒賣過朗姆酒,之前好像是賣利口酒的。所以......

但他還是訂了雖然訂時直覺可能會有問題。

但結果是他完全的失望......

這東西瓶子爛又不好喝。

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wizardfizban:轉錄至看板 Steam                                   12/31 08:28
angel6502: 76種讓鐵粉失望的方法1F 12/31 08:31
egg781: 非常不厚道,粉絲都付80鎂了,他玻璃成本怎樣都一定有利潤2F 12/31 08:33
egg781: 只是沒想到剛經過帆布事件而已,他們CEO居然還用同樣的手法
backzerg: 最後應該再補一句「Aren't you thankful?」才對R4F 12/31 08:36
egg781: 做這種決定的人不下台,把貝賽斯達弄垮只是時間問題5F 12/31 08:36
※ 編輯: wizardfizban (36.235.73.14), 12/31/2018 08:37:34
j53815102: 這個厲害惹 到底能讓鐵粉失望幾次呢 讓我繼續…看下去6F 12/31 08:37
FungiCharlie: 所以根本就是做得出來,只是不想做7F 12/31 08:37
egg781: 省那幾毛錢去趕跑鐵粉,這領導公司的邏輯我不懂8F 12/31 08:38
egg781: 所以難怪我不是CEO?
blackone979: 就省小條開大條啊 明顯跟BZ一樣都變成財務主導公司吧10F 12/31 08:39
kudoshaki: 一個玻璃瓶可以讓成本變兩倍?11F 12/31 08:39
backzerg: 鐵粉是假的 錢握在手中才是真der12F 12/31 08:39
egg781: 他們現在只是殺雞取卵的負面效應還沒出來而已13F 12/31 08:42
egg781: 內部再不重整,之後就是業力引爆了
FungiCharlie: 等現有ip的殘餘價值都榨完之後15F 12/31 08:44
FungiCharlie: 看b社還能去哪生盤子給他們薛
Peak0731: 所以這是故意製造負面消息來搏版面的行銷手法?17F 12/31 08:45
Dimios: 兩倍又怎樣 80鎂做不出來?18F 12/31 08:45
shampoopoo: 這種東西明明只要做精緻點 100美都賣翻19F 12/31 08:46
angel6502: 明明只要精緻100鎂都沒問題+1 本來會買的就是鐵粉了20F 12/31 08:47
bxxl: 那句是說,現在這樣做的成本,是整個玻璃的兩倍21F 12/31 08:52
kudoshaki: 重點是這種東西做來就是要當收藏品的,不夠精緻=騙錢22F 12/31 08:54
bxxl: 這篇的意思搞反了23F 12/31 08:55
angel6502: 是啊,客群是鐵粉,結果東西又被嫌到沒一點好,厲害!24F 12/31 08:56
backzerg: 那這樣不是更糟了 成本兩倍做出這種鳥蛋25F 12/31 08:58
ssarc: 等下,所以他們花玻璃兩倍的成本套塑膠!?真的嗎?腦袋沒26F 12/31 08:58
ssarc: 問題!?

我看反了 改一下

說真的,瓶子不夠大。那就用那瓶子然後給玩家兩瓶嘛!搞不好玩家會更開心。

都賣80美元了......
※ 編輯: wizardfizban (36.235.73.14), 12/31/2018 09:03:37
holyhelm: 真的很智障...大家就是衝著玻璃瓶和瓶蓋買的28F 12/31 09:03
widec: SAN值快掉到負的了29F 12/31 09:06
ssarc: 決策者的腦袋啊......頭痛30F 12/31 09:06
heaven2783: 老闆:建議售價800鎂,賣80算很便宜了啦>///<31F 12/31 09:11
WindSpread: 說實在的,放火在先,這個項目就算超售價也得做出來32F 12/31 09:18
WindSpread: 啊
WindSpread: 沒救啦
verdandy: 這種規劃方式根本不是財務主導了,是智障主導35F 12/31 09:20
Rocavence: 一定是沒點議價的 peak36F 12/31 09:30
horseorange: 今年還有一天 再加握勁吧 (?37F 12/31 09:41
CAtJason: 看這些抓馬比玩76有趣多了w38F 12/31 09:42
Fallen27: 80鎂,80鎂,80鎂耶!80鎂賣粉絲這種垃圾?39F 12/31 09:44
alonelykid: 2018還沒有結束40F 12/31 09:44
zop: 怎麼很明顯是不懂遊戲玩家心態的人在主導這個瓶子案?41F 12/31 10:14
zop: 這種案子要是虧錢,是能虧多少?完全不把粉絲當一回事
PengPengLin: 建模玻璃瓶不夠大是誰的問題?被炮轟又一副受害者的43F 12/31 10:54
PengPengLin: 姿態出來討拍,塑膠瓶成本是玻璃瓶的兩倍,都你在說
PengPengLin: ,我也可以說新台幣比美金還大啊
AkikaCat: 新台幣當然比美金大啊,面額。46F 12/31 10:58
hope951: B社最近三連爆,FO76、塑膠袋、塑膠瓶,兩起是周邊的廠47F 12/31 11:06
hope951: 商出的大包,B社應該好好檢討一下他們的合作廠商
hope951: 大家不在意裡面的酒,瓶子小一點不會有人在意的,結果出
hope951: 這個垃圾......
leamaSTC: 檢討合作廠商幹嘛? 這種出貨都有合約的 你以為能亂搞?51F 12/31 11:14
leamaSTC: 就是B社自己的問題  結果還怪合作廠商...
WindSpread: 合作廠商交貨亂來你可以修理他啊53F 12/31 11:19
WindSpread: 吞下來然後擺爛給玩家看不譙你譙誰R
axakira: MD,兩家B社的老闆都被錢洗腦到頭殼壞去了是吧?55F 12/31 11:48
Kenqr: 新作出來 還是真香56F 12/31 11:58
RONC: 呵呵,真的專搞鐵粉,還好我不是57F 12/31 12:02
johnny3: 因為玻璃開模麻煩吧 就用好開模的塑膠瓶裝玻璃瓶58F 12/31 12:27
bxxl: big and bold, 不只是大而已, 還有視覺上驚人的意思59F 12/31 12:42
CAtJason: 76不就是新作,有真香嗎?噗 我看是沒有吧60F 12/31 15:28
srxteam0935: 為何繼帆布袋變尼龍袋的爭議之後馬上又搞出這種把戲61F 12/31 22:10

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