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作者 p90ep90e (IAmTheWalkingDisaster)
標題 [新聞] Valve員工解釋為何Steam沒有廣告
時間 Mon Oct 19 13:24:43 2015


1.媒體來源:

Cinema Blend

2.完整新聞標題:

Valve Explains Why Steam Doesn't Have Ads

Valve解釋為何Steam上沒有廣告

3.完整新聞內文:


    While a lot of digital platforms will feed ads to users without a
    second thought, and most digital distribution platforms are known
    for ads, one service does not have them: Steam. One of Valve's
    staff explains why Steam doesn't have ads.

    很多遊戲平台都會不假思索的附上很多廣告,但Steam上卻沒有

    In an interview with Gamespot, Valve's Erik Johnson explained why
    the digital download service doesn't have ads like its console
    counterparts, PlayStation Network and Xbox Live. The simple gist
    of the matter is that Valve doesn't believe it adds anything of
    value to consumers.

    在Valve人員Johnson的訪談中,其解釋為何Valve並沒有像他在console的對手一樣
    放上很多廣告,單純只是因為:

    「Valve並不相信這些廣告對於顧客而言有任何價值」


    When asked if something like a Doritos ad might appear on the
    Steam store, Johnson replied...

    當問及如多利多滋的廣告如果出現在Steam上時,Jonhson答道:


   '' We don't see a case for that ever getting user value, [...] So we
    wouldn't do it. I don't think that those ever work, either. To
    take it a step further, I don't think anybody buys Doritos as a
    result of that.''

    我們並不覺得這樣做對使用者有任何利益...所以我們就不做。況且我也不覺得
    這(廣告)將有任何效果,進步言之,我不覺得有人會因為這個(多利多滋廣告)
    而去買多利多滋。


    According to Johnson, he states that Valve wants to focus on
    long-term relationships and he states that it would be “dumb” to
     go the route of the other service providers who have gamers pay a
     subscription fee and still have to suffer through seeing ads on
    the service periodically.

    Johnson說,Valve想要聚焦在跟顧客的長期關係,如果跟其他平台一樣要求
    年費卻仍然需要不定時的被逼著看廣告,將會是非常愚蠢的。

    Johnson isn't alone in thinking the way he does about ads. Valve's
     Robin Walker concurred with the idea that ads don't help
    customers and that they don't “serve any value to costumers”. It
     is true that there's really no benefit on Steam seeing stuff you
    don't care about. And plain and simple when I start up a service
    to play games the last thing I want to do is sit through seeing
    some pointless ad on the sidebar or in the update menu.

    另一位員工Walker也贊同Johnson,其認為,在Steam看到你根本不在乎的東西是沒有
    意義的,道理很簡單,當我想放鬆打個遊戲而開啟遊戲平台時,我最不想看
    到的就是當我更新時出現毫無意義的廣告。


    The only “ads” gamers will see on Steam is for other games. Now
    those kind of promotional notifications are very welcomed because
    it's always great finding out about new games or learning about
    some new game that's either discounted or available for cheap.

    唯一玩家會在Steam上看到的廣告就是更多遊戲,而這些折價廣告非常受
    玩家歡迎,因為玩家們總會想知道有什麼新的遊戲或是有什麼遊戲現在可
    以便宜買入。



    In fact, Valve's whole goal is to help gamers better discover the
    kind of games they want to play. With more than 1,500 games being
    made available on the SteamOS and with more than 6,000 games in
    the database, it's not a matter of adding more games to the
    library so much as it is helping gamers find the sort of titles
    that interest them.

    事實上,Valve的目標是幫助玩家發掘他們會想玩的遊戲,1500個以上的遊戲
    在Steam上可以運行,而有超過六千個遊戲在資料庫中,並不是只是一直叫玩
    家買入遊戲並加入資料庫中,而是幫助玩家找到自己會感到興趣的遊戲。



    Johnson explains to Gamespot that Valve's top priority at the
    moment is improving the algorithms that power the Steam Discovery
    tools. This means that gamers will be able to find the sort of
    indie, AAA, RPG, sports and action games as they see fit.

    Valve現在最優先進行改進的是在Steam搜尋工具中如何運算出如何使玩家找到
    他們會想玩的各種類類型的遊戲像是AAA、RPG等


    Right now the search tools are fairly decent but the discovery
    toolset could still use some improvements. For now, Steam is
    definitely leagues above the competition in terms of its
    selection, variety and prices. Microsoft is slowly playing
    catch-up by including more indie titles after a bit of a debacle
    with the release parity clause from back during the Mattrick era
    of the system, and Sony has been selectively picking a lot of
    high-profile indies to help fill out the ranks on the PlayStation
    store.

    雖然說現在的搜尋工具已經算不錯了但是仍有值得改進的地方,就現況而言
    Steam無疑的在這場平台戰爭中比起其他的對手高一個檔次,不論是在選擇、
    多樣性與價格上都是,其他的平台只有Mircosoft在慢慢追趕而已,Sony則

    對於引入的遊戲非常挑。


    What's interesting is that Steam offers more games than both the
    Xbox and PlayStation storefronts, but the other two have
    third-party ads while Steam avoids it like the plague.

    有趣的是Steam上的遊戲比上開兩平台都還要多,但是後者卻在Steam忙著閃
    避第三方廣告時放上很多第三方廣告。

4.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):

http://goo.gl/iFCnZE
Valve Explains Why Steam Doesn't Have Ads
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While a lot of digital platforms will feed ads to users without a second thought, and most digital distribution platforms are known for ads, one service does not have them: Steam. One of Valve's staff explains why Steam doesn't have ads. ...

 

5.備註:
之前看到有人討論Steam如何使人失心瘋購買後看到了這個新聞...

看來Steam使人消費的功力又要更上一層樓了,周中跟週末特賣已經榨乾我的荷包了啦

"Shut Up!!! and takes my bottle caps"
http://i.imgur.com/1F8gw3T.jpg
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BOTTLECAPS
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※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:25:40
sellgd: 因為有賺啊,哪天沒賺了,礙於股東壓力就放廣告了1F 10/19 13:25
"In this example of Steam they do not have public shareholders to uphold earnings reports for."
簡單翻譯:Steam因為沒有公開發行所以沒有向股東報告營收的問題
https://goo.gl/5oDFeg
Ives20130: 真的屌XDD2F 10/19 13:25
widec: 我從來也都搞不懂那些點擊式廣告有什麼屁用3F 10/19 13:26
aggressorX: 廢話 錢夠多當然就不需要廣告商 其他都是屁話4F 10/19 13:26
gino0717: 明明就一堆廣告5F 10/19 13:27
tn603408: 愛勝必須死~6F 10/19 13:27
Math: 遊戲廣告XD7F 10/19 13:27
garman0403: gaben~gaben~8F 10/19 13:27
silver00: steam不是沒有上市?哪來的股東9F 10/19 13:28
ATand: 滿滿都是遊戲大特價的廣告這叫沒廣告???10F 10/19 13:28
estupid: 結論:有賺錢11F 10/19 13:28
gwjhs112: 沒廣告就是神12F 10/19 13:28
likeshit: 因為都自己的遊戲廣告啊  一打開就是13F 10/19 13:28
linceass: 最好是沒廣告啦 一堆506070%off的14F 10/19 13:28
GaryMatthews: 中國爛車15F 10/19 13:28
AinSophAur: 睜眼說瞎話XDD16F 10/19 13:29
wyiwyi: 廣告打折  直接掏錢買比一般廣告還可怕....17F 10/19 13:30
ERQQ: 甜甜圈 75%off   Gabe: click18F 10/19 13:30
calvin301301: 她的廣告就是遊戲廣告阿19F 10/19 13:30
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:33:13
doomhammer: 超恐怖...怎麼辨 今年的"那個節又要來了..."(恐慌20F 10/19 13:31
SuperUp: 結果玩家只找到一堆大特價的遊戲 沒找到想玩的遊戲 XD21F 10/19 13:32
r594547: ....是沒看內文喔 他要幫你找要玩的 而不是幫你找吃的22F 10/19 13:32
Gura: 你不說我真的不知道那個節要來了...23F 10/19 13:32
超後悔發這篇XDDDD
DarkerDuck: 買遊戲的線上遊戲還需要廣告喔?比課金遊戲還好賺多了24F 10/19 13:32
t13243334: 不是錢夠多,是他故意沒上市不用聽股東賺更多25F 10/19 13:32
leo6601: GABEN 每周的遊戲廣告就夠賺了26F 10/19 13:33
t13243334: 沒有一家上市公司再嫌錢多的好嗎27F 10/19 13:33
bbbgggttt999: 上面有看清楚人家的重點在於收廣告費的第三方廣告嗎28F 10/19 13:34
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:36:24
rufjvm12345: 都自家廣告說沒廣告 ㄏㄏ29F 10/19 13:34
mstar: 誰說沒上市就不會有股東? 一成立時出資的不就是股東?30F 10/19 13:37
沒有啦,上面那句的意思是如果公司本身是非公開,股東就很大可能本來就是公司內
部的經營者,因此不會有所謂「外人」介入公司內部經營,我並不是非常清楚他們究竟
是哪種公司型態,魯魯指知道不公開啦,所以外人再怎麼該HL3他都可以不甩啦
stu00184: 遊戲平臺當然放遊戲廣告,內文說的是沒有第三方廣告31F 10/19 13:37
bonuswhoring: 影片支援 https://youtu.be/yr2GdRBDOmU32F 10/19 13:37
Lord of the Sales: The Battle of Walletsdeep - YouTube
Something is about to happen that has not happened for an age.

 
Lmao XDDDD
Gura: 但標題下的不是很好...指的是第三方廣告,並非自家STEAM廣告33F 10/19 13:37
本來是想加上附註啦,只是原本標題並沒有寫
Kitakami: 看到這篇新聞就代表說特價要來惹34F 10/19 13:38
doomhammer: Steam最好的廣告就是 xxx 75% off不然就xx 包75% off35F 10/19 13:39
doomhammer: 光這樣足以對荷包造成毀滅性衝擊
fkzj: Steam 上的遊戲廣告很恐怖,會真的讓人掉坑刷下去買。而且37F 10/19 13:40
higan: 男人的衣櫥38F 10/19 13:40
fkzj: 掉進去的人明知道自己掉坑了卻不會想要出來。39F 10/19 13:40
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:42:42
wekapipo: 但我想吃多力多滋啊!!!40F 10/19 13:44
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:48:05
tsairay: valve又沒有吃外部投資金主的錢,要向誰報告啊41F 10/19 13:47
tsairay: 股東?Gabe就是大老闆了,誰比他大?
codehard: 你他媽的不提會死嗎 我的荷包啊!43F 10/19 13:51
Argos: valve這間公司很有趣 沒有主管 沒有上級 全部員工都是同一44F 10/19 13:54
Argos: 階層 G胖是老闆沒錯 但他也沒權力要求你任何事情 一切都自
Argos: 主發展 員工想參加哪個專案就去參加哪個專案.... 也難怪
之前有聽說他們的上班方式是每個人的桌椅都有輪子,如果你今天突然想到什麼很有趣的
東西要道另一個Project去做的話就直接把桌椅帶過去就行了,但是也有人說沒那麼簡單
啦XDDDD,但是是有自由轉換這回事就是了
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 13:59:14
Argos: valve本家遊戲做得夭壽慢 根本完全沒在要求進度47F 10/19 13:57
我覺得很好阿,不然誰想看到MGSV爛尾事件(拜託別戰,我真的很愛那個系列)
a2881105: 廣告遊戲!這是玩買遊戲的遊戲48F 10/19 13:58
a2881105: 暑假課金課最凶砸錢不手軟
※ 編輯: p90ep90e (140.119.182.249), 10/19/2015 14:01:24
mamaka: steam的週年慶又要來了50F 10/19 14:01
rhox: Valve發言人說過:他們只做過一款遊戲,其他都是買來的51F 10/19 14:04
rhox: 他們最自豪的就是他們傾聽玩家的聲音,玩家要啥他們就做啥
LoveMoon: 意圖使人買遊戲  錢包都瘦成那樣53F 10/19 14:06

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