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標題 [新聞] 無期徒刑囚犯死後復甦 主張服刑完畢
時間 Sat Nov  9 14:51:42 2019


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1.媒體來源:
紐約時報

2.記者署名
Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs

標題:A Prisoner Who Briefly Died Argues That He’s Served His Life Sentence


相信多益1000分的鄉民都看得懂

大意就是:無期徒刑囚犯簽了放棄心肺復甦聲明書,結果他死後卻被心肺復甦回來,因此他主張自己死掉時,無期徒刑已服刑完畢,法院應放他自由。
法律教授說這是一項法律漏洞。

What does it mean to complete a sentence of life in prison? One prisoner claims he has done it by serving time until the moment of his death — plus another four years since — and says it is well past time to set him free.

The prisoner, Benjamin Schreiber, made that argument to an appeals court in Iowa, saying that when he briefly died in 2015, before being revived at a hospital, he completed his obligation to the state. He asked the three-judge panel to let him get on with his life.

The judges rejected his argument this week, ruling that a lower court had been right to dismiss his petition.

“Schreiber is either still alive, in which case he must remain in prison, or he is actually dead, in which case this appeal is moot,” Judge Amanda Potterfield wrote for the court.

Mr. Schreiber, 66, was sentenced to life without parole after being convicted of murder for killing a man with the handle of an ax in 1996, according to The Des Moines Register.

He has filed several unsuccessful appeals, but in 2018 he argued in court in Wapello County that he had been resuscitated against his will, and that because he had, his “sentence has expired.”

In March 2015, Mr. Schreiber, who is being held at the Iowa State Penitentiary, was taken to a hospital after having seizures and a high fever, according to his petition. The cause of his illness turned out to be large kidney stones, which led to septic poisoning.

When he lost consciousness at the University of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics, a staff member called his brother, who told the hospital that although it could give Mr. Schreiber medicine to ease his pain, “otherwise you are to let him pass,” according to Mr. Schreiber’s petition.

Mr. Schreiber said he was resuscitated despite his brother’s directions and his own do-not-resuscitate order on file with the Iowa Department of Corrections. The courts have not addressed whether he was wrongfully resuscitated. Mr. Schreiber’s lawyer did not respond to requests for comment on Friday, and a hospital spokesman said he did not immediately have a comment.

Judge Potterfield wrote in the ruling this week that because “life” is not defined by the state’s code, the judges had given the term “its plain meaning,” which they took to prescribe that Mr. Schreiber must spend the rest of his natural life incarcerated, regardless of whether he had been revived.

“We do not find his argument persuasive,” Judge Potterfield wrote, adding that the judges found it unlikely the Legislature would have wanted “to set criminal defendants free whenever medical procedures during their incarceration lead to their resuscitation by medical professionals.”

Mr. Schreiber’s plea was not without precedent.

Jerry Rosenberg, who was convicted of murdering two New York police detectives in 1962, petitioned a court in upstate New York to let him go in 1988, arguing that he had died when his heart stopped during surgery.

The judge ruled against Mr. Rosenberg, too, writing that he did not legally die, “as his presence in this courtroom indicates,” The Associated Press reported at the time.

Eve Brensike Primus, a professor who teaches criminal law at the University of Michigan Law School, said it was unsurprising that the theory had only been tried a handful of times.

“The stars have to align — both the medical condition and the sentence the person is facing — for a person to even make this argument,” she said.

Professor Primus said that if people were considered legally dead before being resuscitated, it would create a web of problems, not just in criminal cases, but also for insurance and inheritance claims.

She and I. Glenn Cohen, a professor at Harvard Law School who studies medical ethics and the law, said Mr. Schreiber’s argument was clever but never stood a chance.

“It equivocates on what life and death means for the purposes of the criminal law,” Professor Cohen said in an email.

He added that Mr. Schreiber would still be considered alive for purposes including organ donation, making it “hard to think he should be ‘dead’ for the purpose of serving a life sentence.”


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silent328kn: 名字在,刑期在1F 39.9.229.25 台灣 11/09 14:52
em4: 不是有醫師鑑定2F 39.8.190.12 台灣 11/09 14:52
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diabolica: 同一身分 能算數嗎7F 49.159.17.67 台灣 11/09 14:53
CharleneTsai: 不算漏洞吧 沒死亡證明哪算8F 49.219.145.251 台灣 11/09 14:53
ImBBCALL: 屌耶9F 223.136.210.115 台灣 11/09 14:53
Strasburg: 啊 是判決"死刑"不是判決要被射一槍吧10F 101.12.51.14 台灣 11/09 14:53
emperor: 環首之刑?11F 106.105.44.109 台灣 11/09 14:53
frank123ya: 台灣那個是死刑沒打死 跟這個不一樣吧12F 123.194.189.207 台灣 11/09 14:53
Dorae5566: 法律死亡是看醫生死亡報告,又不是看你13F 223.138.153.43 台灣 11/09 14:54
Dorae5566: 心跳有沒有跳
wafiea708: 看來他真的很想出獄15F 123.193.209.50 台灣 11/09 14:54
cattgirl: 靈魂沒死 不算死刑16F 42.72.104.245 台灣 11/09 14:55
ianlin1216: 麻婆神父是你17F 223.140.212.24 台灣 11/09 14:55
RisingTackle: 環首之刑不是環首死刑是嗎?18F 1.34.254.137 台灣 11/09 14:56
Despairile: 死者甦醒 Pog19F 114.36.114.13 台灣 11/09 14:58
skyswolf: 合理啊= = 憑啥要你體驗死兩次的感覺20F 118.167.12.59 台灣 11/09 14:58
slm52303025: 多判幾個死刑以防萬一21F 36.236.51.33 台灣 11/09 14:59
nakayamayyt: 他就沒死啊22F 114.25.130.208 台灣 11/09 14:59
Shinn826: 沒有死亡證明 你怎麼可以說你死過?23F 42.73.48.251 台灣 11/09 15:00
qd6590: 他都簽放棄了幹麻還救回來?24F 36.230.238.49 台灣 11/09 15:00
andrewyachu: 無期徒刑的英文sentence of life25F 110.26.228.254 台灣 11/09 15:01
etiennechiu: 沒有白紙黑字26F 111.184.60.16 台灣 11/09 15:01
chu630: 沒有白紙黑字死亡證明 不算死亡27F 218.161.58.126 台灣 11/09 15:01
freezee: 你以為Jon Snow喔28F 111.71.62.68 台灣 11/09 15:02
frzqp3814396: 不對吧,死刑幹嘛還心肺復甦救他?29F 27.246.200.165 台灣 11/09 15:02
andrewyachu: 是關到死的意思,所以他認為他死過30F 110.26.228.254 台灣 11/09 15:02
andrewyachu: 了就不用繼續被關
firxd: 有白紙黑字嗎32F 118.167.162.181 台灣 11/09 15:03
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ming70017: 抱歉,刑法是靈魂綁定40F 223.139.241.68 台灣 11/09 15:11
drinkmuffin: 沒死亡證明不能算死亡,就算死掉了41F 36.232.16.81 台灣 11/09 15:12
drinkmuffin: ,也只是沒有國籍的難民
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pinhanpaul: 那就是沒死啊45F 223.137.205.100 台灣 11/09 15:15
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kkes0001: ……三小48F 140.118.175.77 台灣 11/09 15:18
porterlevis: 他不要急救然後被救回來?49F 101.10.6.35 台灣 11/09 15:20
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brucielu95: 到死才算
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yantist: 你有沒有死
wucrhow: 心跳停止是介於死亡與沒死之間59F 223.137.46.191 台灣 11/09 15:35
t19960804: 是環首之刑  不是環首死刑啊60F 27.247.170.62 台灣 11/09 15:36
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as1100: 死後復活表示沒死阿!繼續服刑吧64F 223.141.153.34 台灣 11/09 15:41
bee12: 無期徒刑啊= =?65F 140.114.47.194 台灣 11/09 15:43
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cattgirl: 主張有理71F 42.73.195.170 台灣 11/09 15:58
bugbook: 無期徒刑是活刑,只要你活著就得服刑,不72F 1.165.93.220 台灣 11/09 15:58
bugbook: 會因死而復生而抵銷該刑責。
mystage: 不是啊,你要證明你上輩子已經結束啦。74F 118.169.156.50 台灣 11/09 16:03
zach8888: 在於有死跟沒死之間75F 42.73.196.208 台灣 11/09 16:09
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fec: 既然救回來不就沒死嗎 不是很懂77F 123.205.112.50 台灣 11/09 16:21
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hydralee: 想死?服完刑再去死......83F 223.136.182.15 台灣 11/09 17:15
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system303179: 都說是無期了到底乾死刑屁事 一堆人85F 111.83.185.54 台灣 11/09 17:19
system303179: 有在看字嗎
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MRfridge: 邏輯大師91F 110.26.227.94 台灣 11/09 18:26
AndyWT: 登出失敗92F 61.228.148.28 台灣 11/09 18:54
Dimios: 反正他已經到了要簽放棄書的程度 應該也沒93F 39.10.133.11 台灣 11/09 19:18
Dimios: 剩多久了
NewPassat: 那死後附身別人這樣算有執行完嗎?95F 111.251.59.141 台灣 11/09 21:12
sandalsiders: 囧恩雪諾?96F 110.26.8.169 台灣 11/09 21:25
sgsboyxl: 有跟沒有之間97F 101.12.162.219 台灣 11/09 23:22
YuzanJhang: 好 好屌98F 1.200.215.173 台灣 11/10 00:37
KJC1004: 其實蠻合理的欸99F 1.163.129.222 台灣 11/10 01:25
KJC1004: 不過是照字面解釋
lee28119: 這法律教授是不是邏輯有問題 敢不敢具101F 114.40.14.115 台灣 11/10 02:54
lee28119: 名啦

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1樓 時間: 2019-11-09 15:59:00 (台灣)
  11-09 15:59 TW
死後再救回來?
在"生".跟"死"之間??
2樓 時間: 2019-11-09 16:13:29 (台灣)
  11-09 16:13 TW
如果像刃牙 中的死刑犯 上吊10分鐘 再由醫生確定死亡 然後活過來 那我覺得真的要免行了 心肺停止 後來又動了 像這種的就不行了
3樓 時間: 2019-11-09 16:28:44 (台灣)
  11-09 16:28 TW
要是真的放他出去、法律上他就是一個沒國籍沒身分的人、這表示就算我把他抓起凌虐也沒人拿我有辦法對吧?
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